{"id":41902,"date":"2012-09-10T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-09T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/francois-derbaix-habla-de-su-experiencia-en-comunitae-com-como-inversor\/"},"modified":"2025-03-12T11:22:22","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T10:22:22","slug":"francois-derbaix-habla-de-su-experiencia-en-comunitae-com-como-inversor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/francois-derbaix-habla-de-su-experiencia-en-comunitae-com-como-inversor\/","title":{"rendered":"Fran\u00e7ois Derbaix talks about his investee Comunitae.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In September 2011\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/cabiedes-&amp;-partners\">Cabiedes &amp; Partners<\/span>\u00a0invit\u00f3 a\u00a0Comunitae (web de pr\u00e9stamos entre particulares)\u00a0a presentar su proyecto en la <a href=\"https:\/\/aiei.es\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AIEI<\/a>.\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/josecabiedes\">Jos\u00e9<\/span>\u00a0and\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/luismcabiedes\">Luis Martin Cabiedes<\/span>\u00a0They intended to invest in this business, and as they usually do, they brought it to the AIEI so that the other members of the association could also evaluate it. I was delighted with the talk we had then with\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/pub\/arturo-cervera\/1\/987\/17b\">Arturo Cervera<\/span>The founder and CEO of the company; and the p2p lending sector, which in my opinion has a lot of potential to take this business away from the banks. So I decided to invest in Comunitae, together with Cabiedes and Good Invest (<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/es.linkedin.com\/pub\/norberto-varas\/0\/263\/907\">Norberto Varas<\/span>). Esta inversi\u00f3n seconcret\u00f3 en noviembre 2011.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>With this investment, Comunitae has mainly dedicated itself to improving the product: improving its website, the process of registering loan requests, the process of registering lenders, etc. At the same time, the banking sector has been worsening, restricting credit and generating less and less confidence on the part of individuals. Banks and savings banks demand higher and higher interest rates for loans, and offer lower returns to depositors. As a result, more and more people are turning to p2p lending to finance themselves or to invest their money.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Private-to-private lending success stories: Lending Club, Prosper, Zopa, ...<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the United States,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lendingclub.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lending Club<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.prosper.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Prosper<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2012\/05\/29\/peer-to-peer-lending-crosses-1-billion-in-loans-issued\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">already more than 1,000 M$ of loans (TechCrunch)<\/a>in annual growth of 100%.<\/p>\n<p>In the UK,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zopa.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zopa<\/a>\u00a0has already raised more than \u00a3200m in formalised loans.<\/p>\n<p>En Espa\u00f1a tambi\u00e9n, aunque a\u00fan a escala m\u00e1s peque\u00f1a:\u00a0Comunitaesuma ya m\u00e1s de 1 M\u20ac en pr\u00e9stamos formalizados, en pleno crecimiento (m\u00e1s de 70 mil \u20ac prestados en mayo 2012, 7 veces m\u00e1s que en mayo 2011).<\/p>\n<p><strong>How does Comunitae work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The company receives loan requests from individuals via the web. It analyses the credit profile of each person requesting money, asks for all the necessary documentation, and discards more than 70% of the requests. Comunitae also grades each request with an A (lowest), B or C risk level. 30% of the requests are accepted and published on the website so that users can lend to those they want.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How much does it cost those who ask for money?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The interest rate depends on the risk level of the borrower and the evolution of interest rates on the market: currently between 10% and 15% APR for loans of up to \u20ac10,000 with a maturity between 1 and 4 years. Comunitae also charges the borrower an origination fee of 2.5%.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How much do those who lend money earn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Users who lend money are charged the agreed interest rate according to the loan, pay a management fee of 1% to Comunitae, and are currently in arrears at less than 5%. With this,\u00a0<em>in fine<\/em>In the case of the \"Lender's return\", lenders have a net return of 7-8% (actual data 2009-2012), much higher than the return on a deposit, and with less risk than with preference shares, convertibles, structured products, ...<\/p>\n<p><strong>What happens if someone does not return the money?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Comunitae takes care of the management of non-payments to obtain the payment of the amounts due and in case of non-payments it shares the information with the largest provider of information on non-payments in Spain (just as with a bank it is not advisable not to repay a loan because one ends up included in the files of defaulters). It negotiates payment schedules with potential defaulters, and ultimately sues and prosecutes them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How to invest by lending money?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Es sencillo:\u00a0te das de alta, haces una transferencia bancaria de tu cuenta a Comunitae y vas eligiendo las\u00a0solicitudes de pr\u00e9stamos\u00a0en las que quieres participar. \u00a0Lo suyo es prestar poco dinero a mucha gente, para tener as\u00ed el portfolio m\u00e1s diversificado y reducir el riesgo. Luego a medida que se ir\u00e1n pagando los inter\u00e9s y devolviendo el principal, Comunitae te lo abonar\u00e1 en tu cuenta, y cuando quieres lo re-inviertes, o dispones del dinero.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, it seems that the time has come for the\u00a0<em>peer-to-pee<\/em>r for loans between individuals in Spain. It is undoubtedly a very attractive option to take out a loan, or to diversify your investments while obtaining a much better risk-return ratio than the financial products offered by banks. what do you think? do you dare to try it out?<\/p>\n<p>More info and opinions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Blog Comunitae\u00a0y Twitter\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/Comunitae\">@Comunitae<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Art\u00edculos en\u00a0El Confidencial,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/loogic.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Loogic<\/a>,\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.invertia.com\/noticias\/articulo-final.asp?idNoticia=2579795\">Invertia<\/span>,\u00a0iAhorro,\u00a0Actibva,\u00a0<a title=\"Comunitae on El Blog Salm\u00f3n\" href=\"https:\/\/www.elblogsalmon.com\/mercados-financieros\/el-resurgir-de-comunitae-cambios-en-estrategia-que-pintan-bien\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Salmon Blog<\/a>, ...<\/li>\n<li>Profile of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.crunchbase.com\/organization\/comunitae\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Comunitae on Crunchbase<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/1488843\">Comunitae on Linkedi<\/span>n<\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In September 2011, Cabiedes &amp; Partners invited Comunitae (a private-to-private lending website) to present its project at the AIEI. Jos\u00e9 and Luis Martin Cabiedes intended to invest in this business, and as they usually do, they brought it to the AIEI so that the other members of the association could also evaluate it.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[100],"tags":[172],"sectores":[],"tipo-contenido":[2260],"class_list":["post-41902","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-valoracion-de-empresas","tag-venture-capital","tipo-contenido-noticias"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41902","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41902"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41902\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41902"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41902"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41902"},{"taxonomy":"sectores","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/sectores?post=41902"},{"taxonomy":"tipo-contenido","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/techma.bakertilly.es\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tipo-contenido?post=41902"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}